BM24 Interview with Fr. Jaroslaw Wąsowicz SDB
Due to the fact that the portal took Blogmedia24.pl social patronage III National Patriotic Pilgrimage supporters, we invite you to an interview with the organizer, Fr. Jaroslaw Wąsowicz SDB.
Foxx - key question that will ask a person from outside supporters ties as a matter of fact, theoretically far as the stadium and church. How does it look?
JW - Just as they are noticed only theoretically distant reality. There are really close. Especially in the Polish context. Today, supporters of the environment is one of the few independent groups that are based on a pervasive political correctness. They pay attention to the matter deliberately left unsaid, many call a spade a spade, patriotic attitudes are formed, they honor the Polish heroes, which are forgotten in the pages of widely read newspapers and popular radio and television stations. These values \u200b\u200bare close to the Church, which in Polish history has played a remarkable role difficult to compare with any other nation. Behind this attitude still receive środowiskakibiców times since manipulators reviews social. Similarly, he and the Church, which in many cases, uphold national memory and ethical values \u200b\u200barising from the Gospel. These are spaces that allow you to organize the pilgrimage of the Salesians of fans (the official organizer of the Salesian Youth Education Association, the saws). Added to this is the whole tradition of our congregation. Founder of the Salesians of St.. John Bosco saw the sport one of the basic space in which educates the young generation. One of his most famous sayings of parenting is the sentence "pitch full of the devil is dead", the the educational system, Fr. Bosco, which is called a system of prevention, is to educate young people into good Christians and upright citizens. It should also be noted an unusual favor with which the church of the environment referred to the previous pilgrimages. There must be especially emphasized the hospitality of the Pauline Fathers at Jasna Gora, or how the patronage of this initiative from the beginning embraced the Catholic weekly magazine "Friday". Pilgrimage in its formula leaves much room for initiative supporters themselves. Its software is always consulted in the environment and try to realize the demands that are result of these discussions. All draws are in complete freedom from any pressure from outside. Among other things, so we abandoned the campaign of popular media. Information on subsequent pilgrimages are passed "through the grapevine", we use the assistance of supporters' associations, kibicowskich websites and independent media, such as portal Blogmedia24.pl, bosko.pl, "Gazeta Poland." Patron of pilgrims and the Association of the Federation of Fighting Youth, which is 80 - years of the twentieth century was the largest youth organization of the anti-Communist underground in the country. Perhaps in the promotion of the pilgrimage turn on the "Sports Review", which is acceptable to supporters of the environment. We will never ask the patronage of "Gazeta Wyborcza" and TVN - the media, which in recent years a lot has natrudziły that the image of the fan was in general negative image of public opinion.
Where did the idea for the pilgrimage of fans?
The idea of \u200b\u200ba pilgrimage came late. Tadeusz Duffek, the legendary Gdansk Lechia supporter, activist and underground structures FMW Solidarity. For a long time struggled with cancer. A lot of time talking about the past and the future of our environment, Polish. Emerged the book "White - Green Solidarity", which treated the commitment of supporters from Gdansk in the fight against communism. Tadeusz confided to me that his dream is to organize a pilgrimage for fans from around the country, which was to be patriotic in nature. "Dufo" died in October 2005, but the idea of \u200b\u200bpilgrimage alive. In the end we managed to mobilize and December 2008 for the first time zawitaliśmy at Jasna Gora.
As this pilgrimage places in the context of other priest - including group of yellow in the International Pilgrimage of Suwalki in Vilnius. Explicitly draws attention to focus on working with youth. Is it just about business formation, or something else?
Salesians in the Church are called to work with youth and for youth. All our initiatives are designed to achieve this mission. Personally, I am involved in many projects (such as on a pilgrimage from Suwalki to the Gates of Dawn), which are intended to help young people find themselves in today's reality. I must admit that close to my heart are the particular initiatives related to education not only religious, but patriotic. The reason is simple. I am a historian. Moreover, the sentiment I remember the days when as a teenage fan Lechia worked in FMW, and I know that young people can be very generous, and to engage effectively in the defense of freedom and traditional values \u200b\u200bthat are being Polish.
supporters taking part in earlier pilgrimages often belong to young people a bit older and not necessarily the "polite" - the priest has the impression of these meetings?
As always good. The impression they did for me in particular, panel discussions, which confirmed that the environment is extremely fans keen interest in prosperity of our country. Besides I'm used to the "naughty" youth. I used it himself. Environmental supporter I've been involved since 1983 and today I have the fans in Poland a number of proven friends. Also, it is not for me, the environment or foreign, or those that might surprise me something. The fans are great people.
Sure, we can not avoid questions about what is associated with radical forms of football fanaticism - both know that it happens, that it is from these backgrounds often come from people tied to the value - as opposed to sports viewers contemplatives of our actions excellent players gorging pop corn. After all, not coincidentally in the stands could hear the playful slogan "if we were interested (in a presumably only) football - we would be players"). How to explain to anyone outside environment? I always say for example that Critics of various scandals are often passionate about historical figures, or literature. History is not known but the military units of morality - nomen-omen - the law (including the knight orders), nor endowed temperament guys behaving in extreme situations, such as lambs. A good clue?
Very good:). However, I think the phenomenon you mention is more complex and require a longer discussion. Maybe this is a topic for separate discussion? I am happy, on some occasion, talk about it. Now, however briefly, as if in response, and at the same time affirming your intuition, I would cite one of my favorite statements about 'kiboli "by Janusz Korwin - Mikke:" But who would have thought of ordinary people that it is the stadium of hooligans and thugs in the scarves have followed the first fight for their homeland, if such a need for future ? That's what people characterized by so much patriotism, defending the country, were born during the Warsaw Uprising and World War II "(" Life ", April 12, 2002). Ideowi Only people can change the world. We must strive with all their strength to extract their natural goodness hidden within each man and focus on the beneficial effects for society. Supporters, not once shown that this can go wrong.
Program this year's pilgrimage is far more political, or patriotic than in previous years - I mean for example, the planned speech by Fr. Isakowicz-Zaleski about the genocide perpetrated in the eastern borderlands, or a concert dedicated to the Soldiers Andrew Kolakowski cursed. What is the reason for this change? Is it involves what happens after April 10, 2010?
In previous years, and we placed strong emphasis on patriotism. The program was perhaps a little less noisy due to the fact that I still look for new solutions. This is only the third pilgrimage and the program is the result of this search. This year there will be a panel discussion, for example, which previously enjoyed great popularity. Participated in them, and famous politicians, like the Kursk and Jacek Radosław Parda (former deputy minister of sport with LPR), and well-known supporters, who have a lot of publicity about the environment, as the Roman Zielinski (Slask Wroclaw), Jurek Dudała (Previous Photo) and Peter Lisiewicz ( Lech Poznan, editor of the Gazeta Polish). On the other hand panels are incredibly lengthened and it was hard in them to reach some consensus. So they have replaced the lecture, which appeared to be an interesting proposition. The events connected with the national tragedy of 10 April 2010, only confirms our right path the idea of \u200b\u200bpilgrimage and the need to discuss today's patriotism, as well as bringing the love of the homeland for future generations. Also, to defend those values \u200b\u200bthat are close to us. For example, already during his last pilgrimage during his homily was moved to defend such a problem Cross in the schools and public places. Time has shown that a few months later we had to physically defend the Cross against the desecration of the contemporary barbarians. I think this year's pilgrimage program confirms the line, which we adopted two years ago and we want to continue in the future.
Good luck and see you.
